? >> i don't think you can tell what will happen next year, but i can tell you this -- democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. >> simply put, that is delusional. also, bob woodward, he predicted this. >> it's a mess. clearly. but what it isn't, and i think you have to look at the question of motive and the president's motive here, even though there are deep problems with the implementation, he wants to do something good for 30 million people and get them health insurance. so this isn't watergate, this isn't clinton and monica lewinsky. >> i'm not saying it's a scandal. what it seems to be is rank incompetence. >> there's no question about that, but you see all of the stories and this frenzy out there, the game over, the presidency is over. some people are saying. i think that's not the case. but here's the other side of this, which i would agree with george will on, when you go down the road, it's going to get worse. because you talk to the experts and they will tell you that this is a money issue pit's going to blow a hole in the budget. >> a big hole. in fact, he'